Jul 11
Kenny Cooper Set for A Move to Norway
The only positive thing on a otherwise awful FC Dallas team is Kenny Cooper’s goal scoring prowess. His eight goals in sixteen matches has held the team afloat in the western conference (it also helps that the western conference can’t win anything against the east). Any way, his success has interested a couple of teams throughout Europe most notably Rosenborg in Norway. Rosenborg first offered one million dollars for the young American but were turned down by Dallas. Rosenborg have their eyes set on Cooper because they just sent in an improved offer, rumored to be with an extra 250,000 dollars.
Dallas is hesitant to accept the offer because Cooper has provided almost 40% of Dallas’s offense. If you include his assists, he’s provided over 50% of their offense. Hyndman knows he needs help in the transfer market and a Cooper transfer could provide funds to get the necessary help but at such a high cost, I can understand why Hyndman is so cautious.
Does the cost out way the benefit or vice-versa? What do you think about Cooper going to Norway? Your comments and thoughts are welcome below.
July 11th, 2008 at 8:47 am
I’m from Norway and I’m a big Rosenborg fan! I think Kenny Cooper will do the right thing if he comes to Rosenborg and Trondheim. It’s a big club with great traditions. No doubt that Rosenborg by far is the biggest club in Norway and Scandinavia! Rosenborg have also competed in The Uefa Champions League regularely the last thirteen years. Kenny Cooper is after what I understand a great finnisher and good in the air! Rosenborg has also just sold one of their best strikers, in Yssouf Koné to Romanian club CFR Cluj. So I think Kenny Cooper will go right in Rosenborg’s starting line-up…
July 11th, 2008 at 8:50 am
If that is the case joachim, then it looks like a good transfer. Dallas doesn’t want to do it though because he has provided over half of their offense and they don’t have a replacement for him. It needs to be a sweet offer to give him up. My only reservation is I won’t get to see him on tv.
July 11th, 2008 at 8:53 am
Just a comment on Joachims comment:
Rosenborg is not the biggest club in Scandinavia! They used to be, but have had some awful seasons
the last years!
The club is a “falling giant.” I would not recommend Kenny Cooper a move to Rosenborg!
July 11th, 2008 at 8:57 am
guys, I would just like to state a view of many Americans about transfers to Scandanavia. Generally, the people go their to make some good money and then they come back, I’m not saying Cooper would do that, in fact, I think he won’t but the people that go to seek great European competition go to the big leagues like england germany spain italy holland or france.
July 11th, 2008 at 8:57 am
If remember correctly, didn’t they do bad in their domestic league but had some great showings in either the UEFA Cup or Champions League (I forget which)
July 11th, 2008 at 8:58 am
I think your right chuck, they tied chelsea in the champions league and that was big. They didn’t make it out of the group stages though.
July 11th, 2008 at 9:29 am
RBK beat Valencia twice in the CL and they did get the third place(Uefa Cup). They have also got a new manager who has sown some great results in the past. The team is young and has a lot of potential.
July 11th, 2008 at 9:32 am
Im from Norway and am a Rosenborg fan, and i wreally hope that Cooper will come to us. Rosenborg is a big club who plays well in European cups every year and is the most powerfull and best team in Scandinavia. Kom te åss Kenny !
July 11th, 2008 at 9:43 am
Can I ask what you scandanavians think about your leagues compared to the england spain italy, etc. We Americans generally like to see our guys go to the stronger leagues because the competition is better and we get to see them play.
July 11th, 2008 at 9:59 am
We realise we can’t compete with great leagues like the English, Spanish, Italian and so on.
But the Norwegian League is known for being a great exhibition place to move to a team with greater power.
I honestly don’t know how good Cooper is, but he can’t be THAT good since it seems like Rosenborg (of little Norway!) seem to be ahead in the chase for his signature.
Should he make the move, you could watch him live online
July 11th, 2008 at 11:10 am
The Norwegian League isnt so big and all that, but everybody knows about Rosenborg and their accomplishments.
we will be back and do great results in the Uefa Cup this year and Champions League next year..Maybe
July 11th, 2008 at 11:11 am
I’ve seen Rosenborg BK live for the 44 last year and the club is one of the
greatest in Scandinavia with the best potensial. They have a 21500 seated
stadium and are planning to rebuild it and increase it to take 40000 seats.
RBK is building a new and great team, who consist mostly of young players.
The team has just hired a new trainer, who won the league title in
Denmark with Aalborg last season. RBK is a great team and Trondheim is
a nice city, so I’m sure Mr. Cooper would love to stay here for a while.
This could be his opportunity to present himself for the big leagues in
Europe, because RBK use to play in the European cups against the biggest
teams. You could be the right player for our team, so take time to visit
the club and the city and I’m sure you’re love it……………
You can check here : http://www.trondheim.com
July 11th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
if cooper wanna come over here, his welcome but his jst gonna waist his potential here in norway, his been great for dallas this year, hope he continue and improve, and then he come to one of the bigger league, but norway aint that buy i guess,but i think is goal scoring period will finish as soon as he get his foot here..well rosenborg was scandinavian finest but now they not..look most of they 2 promising player, skjelbred and tettey dont even wanna sign a new deal yet. cause they wanna get out of here.
buttom line..wait a lil bit before goin there
July 11th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
I want him to go to a big league so we can see him play in the US. I don’t want him to go to Rosenborg for that reason, and he can get better competition in a bigger league.
July 11th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
Rosenborg is bigger and better then Dallas. he should come to us and maybe go to a bigger league later.
July 11th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
As a supporter of FCDallas (Go Hoops!) I am extremely sad to see my favorite player and the best player on the team considering a transfer to Norway. Cooper is FCD, and if he leaves, we will lose our number one scoring threat, and the leader of the team. This will kill our season, and if they don’t get anything big for the money they get from Kenny, we will have a few seasons of sucking. Sad Day. Now do I think its a good idea for him to leave. No, I think he can get a better team at the end of the season if he keeps playing as well as he is. He is young and is improving year by year. I hope he stays for the team’s sake, but also his own.
July 11th, 2008 at 4:28 pm
I agree, charley. I’d like to see him go to a bigger league. FCD’s season is completely over if they sell cooper. They’re only 4 points from the west lead and if he leaves, the season is over for FCD. They should sell him after the season is over because FCD is not that bad of a team. The Scandinavian leagues are not that much better than MLS, and Cooper needs a big step up here. He should wait it out and try to push for the playoffs with FCD.
July 11th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
if you want to come to norway, don´t go to rosenborg:P COME TO ODD GRENLAND in SKIEN CITY..
oddgrenland.no
hahahaha
July 11th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
The Norwegian League is better then MLS. no doubt. an Rosenborg is a big club who sells good players to the biggest leagues every year.
July 11th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Odd Grenland sug. dåkk legg i adecco. FLIRING !!!
July 11th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
Stian and ODD Greenland, this is a US Soccer blog so if your commenting, please do so in English.
July 11th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Additionally, Norwegian League is comparable to MLS, maybe a little bit better, but not much. Rosenborg is probably a little better than New England Revolution. Cooper needs to stay for a half year and then go to a major European league. He’ll get more transfer money and FCD needs him to push for the playoffs.
July 11th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
I´m just jokin, rosenborg is a perfect club to get known with the international FOOTBALL;)
les historien så ser du hvem som skapte rbk og hvem som er elste klubben. se bare på fargene deres.. første storklubben i norge med fortsatt flest GULL er odd.
July 11th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
Very few players, if any, in the MLS can play in the top leagues in Europe. I am from Norway but I’ve lived in the US for 4+ years now. The Norwegian league is a perfect place to start out and get noticed. If you do well in Norway then you will be picked up by a larger club in a larger league eventually. I’d say the MLS and Tippeligaen are very similar in quality. Fact is, if you want to play for a big club in Europe you have to pay your dues and get noticed. Norway is the perfect place to show that you have what it takes.
July 11th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
Just want to say one thing. Rosenborg is not the club for a striker who wants a striker with him and not alone. maybe a club like Tromsø, Brann, Viking or Vålerenga. ps odd har flest nm men ingen serie!!!
July 11th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Seriously, Rosenborg is a team of yesteryear. They struggle mid-table alongside teams that have 1/10th of the budget they have. They do not, as Stian claims, sell players to the big leagues every year, unless you count Liga I of Romania as a big league.
July 11th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Unfortunately, people from MLS can go to big leagues and big teams. At least bigger than a mid table Norwegian team. Jozy Altidore, Villareal. Brad Guzan Aston Villa. Clint Dempsey, Fulham. Freddy Adu, Benfica. The point is, we don’t need the Norwegian league to get to big leagues. MLS players can jump straight to big leagues and big teams.
July 11th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
If Cooper wants to play in the big leagues I suggest that he goes to Rosenborg. If he does well, he will certainly get the attention of bigger and better clubs. The interest around Norwegian football(soccer) is very huge at the moment and all the major clubs in europe have scouts placed all over the country. A great place to get noticed indeed. As to the quality of the Norwegian league I have to say that it’s a bit better than MSL. when it comes to pace and technique that is. Individual skills is a big and decisive factor, and I think that’s something Mr.Cooper can really adapt to. as for my own personal view, I would love to see Kenny Cooper in a Rosenborg jersey=)
July 11th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Rosenborg has the best players in the Norwegian league and right now we need a attacker. and I think he would do great on top with Steffen Iversen. usually im not so in too getting new players, but i have seen some movie clips with Cooper and I was impressed.
tasså kom hit te Trondheim Kenny gutt! det bli knaill
July 11th, 2008 at 6:02 pm
I would’nt call Rosenborg a mid-tabel team. They won the Norwegian League Thirteen years in a row! From 1992 to 2004. Then they came 7th in 2005, and won it again in 2006! And they came in at 5th last year. But this year (2008), they can very well win it again! Since 2004 Rosenborg slowly has moved through a generation change. Many older players have retired, and young players has come up from the youth team, or they have been signed from other clubs. Now that’s why Rosenborg’s results from 2005 to 2007 has been just above mediocre. (Exxept the league win in 2006 of course!) Anyway…I have seen some videos with Cooper on YouTube and i am really impressed with this guy! Great finnisher and a decent technique aswell! And with his height he didin’t seem slow either? Actually he looks kind of fast… Max Zeger..What can you tell me about his speed? Oh and Max, search for Rosenborg BK on YouTube…I think you will find Rosenborg a nice club for Kenny Cooper. : )
July 11th, 2008 at 6:06 pm
He is no speed demon because he is a very big guy. He’s six feet three inches actually. 1.91 meters. He’s got quick feet and he’s very quick and agile but he’s not going to run by people. He can finish with his head and with his feet. He has a dynamite shot too. He’s a good player, but I still want to see him at a big league, at least bigger than Norway.
July 11th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Some players from MSL have done great in Norway. Douglas Sequira came from Salt Lake for some years ago and went up to the coldest part of Norway. Brian Waltrip have played in 2 norwegians clubs, and I think I can say so, that the norwgian league is on a much higher level than the Major Soccer League.
This is just my thoughts, so you don’t have to agree with me or so.
July 11th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
I’m gonna say this about Norway. Norway’s league is probably just a little better than MLS. The MLS guys who can’t get national team games and who want to make some money go to Scandanavia to play. Like Troy Perkins and Ramiro Coralles and Clarence Goodson. If he wants a spot of the National Team, he should consider either staying or going to a bigger league.
July 11th, 2008 at 6:17 pm
Some of the norwegians clubs are known to get their best players out to bigger clubs. Many of those who arrives, leaves in about 2-3 years if they have played over all odds, and have been seen by bigger clubs.
July 11th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
in 2 or 3 years cooper will be 25 or 26. He needs to get finish out the year for Dallas because they desperately need him, then move to a premiership or bundesliga team and establish himself there. Rosenborg for 2 or 3 years is too long. If he can by pass Norway and make the jump to a big club at the end of the season, that is what he should do.
July 11th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Come to Rosenborg, Cooper.
You are a good player, and Rosenborg need you!
July 11th, 2008 at 7:02 pm
valerenga is the best looking team in norway now they buyed a lot of players and they looking on a american attacker named chad barett kenny cooper should not go to rosenborg they are really bad right now.but valerenga is going to be the best team in norway whit in 2013 they gonna kick rosenborgs whit butts
July 11th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Guys.
VIF have plans to be one of the top europeen teams whitin 2013. And I think they will make it. Troy perkins is good, and i think cooper should come to vaalerenga, just because they aim a little higher then the other scandinavian clubs. (nearly half the norwegian national-team plays for vif)
July 11th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
No way that Vålerenga will be better. specially with the manager they have now. never in the world that they will have the same succes rosenborg has
July 11th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
If you ask me, he should forget Norway altogether. There’s a lot of players from Tippeligaen who get out and make a name for themselves (Solskjær, Riise, Gamst Pedersen, Rushfeldt, Flo), but this rarely happens to foreigners who comes here.
July 11th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
just take a lokk at vif playsers, and read at vif.no they have a goal to be a top team in europe whitin 2013. and the investors are inn.
July 11th, 2008 at 7:56 pm
Vålerenga doesnt even have it own stadium
July 11th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Stian, have you seen the new stadium plans?
i`l suggest you shut your mouth;)
July 11th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
yeah, I have seen them. its very easy to make plans.
July 12th, 2008 at 2:33 am
Hi Max Zeger!
I see you’re eager to get Cooper to a bigger and better team and league than Norway and Rosenborg, but why has no other major team shown real interest in him as for the moment? You get the attention you deserve.
But honestly, if I was Cooper, I would REALLY think it twice if Dallas and RBK came to an agreement.
RBK are in a difficult position in this moment, stuck in the middle of what used to be a great team, and trying to build a new one.
And those people that say that the Norwegian League is SO much better than MLS are realle narrow-sighted. They still believe that the national team is a top notch in European measurament, and that the likes of Rosenborg, Valerenga and Brann could make and impact in Champions League. Those days are gone!
July 12th, 2008 at 2:56 am
Hi Max. First of all I apologize on behalf of my fellow Norwegians who waste bandwidth and dumb up your nice blog as if it was their private little chat room. Embarrassing… Anyway, I think the American soccer scene is and definitely will be a great place for mid-level European clubs like Rosenborg to unearth exciting new talent. Cooper might be a decent player, but I would personally like Rosenborg to go for faster and more creative forwards/wingers. In your opinion, who are the next great things to come out of the MLS or college soccer in the States?
July 12th, 2008 at 5:54 am
I have to agree with GOrm. If an American player wants to come to Norway at this time, dont transfer to RBK. Ok, they have finished top of the league many years in a row, but that was with the old coach Nils Arne Eggen. There has been a lot of trouble in the club lately. The past six years they have changed coach just as many times. And both of the, hmm whatchamacallit, (sportsdirektør), managers have gotten “burned out” and has had to go on sick leave for quite some time. The last coach even broke down in tears on the pressconference of his “firing”. This is not a club that i would recommend anyone that wants to be happy in to go to. Vaalerenga on the other hand, in which the former MLS goalie Troy Perkins transferred to, is on the virge of something BIG. Just give Troy a call Kenny, he’ll tell you all about it. RBK is pointing downward, VIF is pointing upward. And to Stian, uhmmm…..are you seriuos?? “It’s very easy to make plans”?? I suggest you read the papers a bit more than you obviously do. And BTW, Vif has got the best fans in Scandinavia, every club that has played them sayes so. Even the Newcastle fans, cheered the vif fans along when we met them a few years back, something i have never ever heared of before. So Kenny, call Troy
Could anyone tell me a bit about Chad Barrett?
July 12th, 2008 at 8:02 am
Uncle Bob, I appreciate the sensibility. Some exciting wingers are Robbie Rogers, Sacha Kljestan, Arturo Alvarez, stuart holden. Robbie Rogers and Arturo Alvarez have blazing speed and good moves too. Unfortunately, these players will probably be able to make the jump to big European leagues. Alvarez could go to spain as he is a spanish speaker. Unfortunately for Norway, the guys who go from MLS are the very good consistent players, but not good enough to be in the best leagues in Europe. I think Cooper is good enough to be in a top flight team, that’s why I’m hesistant to see him go to Norway.
July 12th, 2008 at 8:14 am
I dont think Valerenga is pointing up. They have tried it wery long and they have never succeded. A team is not getting better just buying players, they must have a good manager also, somethnig Valerngen dont have. Marting Andresen (The manager) is in his first season as a manager and at the same time he is a player in Valerengen. And thee fans as Jeppe says, is NOT the best fans in Norway. Rosenborg is filling the stadium at almost every match, while Valerengen fills the half their stadium. Rosenborg do also have a young promising team who will be back in a year or two!
July 12th, 2008 at 8:30 am
valerenga is going to get their own stadium a big and good one not like rosenborgs one who looks like a trash can
July 12th, 2008 at 8:35 am
valerenga is also i nicer club than rosenborg.valerenga have good young players when rosenborg have young african players but almost no norwegian youths and valerenga got Klanen the beset fan club in norway we are going and whatching valerenga all round in the world
July 12th, 2008 at 8:37 am
rosenborg were good on in 1990 but now they just wannabes
July 12th, 2008 at 9:31 am
Give me a break. Rosenborg has to young african which are very good players. theres no doubt that Rosenborg has the best players and fans in Norway.
And Cooper will glide right in the first squad!
July 12th, 2008 at 9:35 am
Many players from the Norwegian leagues goes to bigger clubs.. This is very new transfers from the Norwegian Leagues, Fredrik Strømstad from the second best league in Norway recently went to french Le Mans, Kone from Rosenborg to Cluy, Christian Grindheim form Vålerenga went to Heerenveen in Netherlands, Fredrik Stoor are going to Fulham Soon, Daniel Braathen went to Bolton, Hæstad to Wigan, Eguren played in Rosenborg, he is in Villareal nå. Stabæk’s Anthony Annan are chased by Chelsea, Bolton, Man City, and more. Many big clubs wantsStabæk’s Alanzinho. Rosenborg’s Skjelbred is wanted by Newcastle. Håvard Nordtveit from a club in the second best league in Norway is now playing for Arsenal. Fredrikstad’s Tarik ElyonLe Mans, because the club accepted the bid.uoussi is soon going to … And John Carew that plays for Aston Villa used to play for Rosneborg . Hangeland that used to play for Viking in Norway is now playing for Fulham. If he wants to end up in a big club, Rosenborg will be the perfect choice for him now. I now this is a mess, but I just wrote little by little when I watched Tv :-p But again, Rosenborg is the perfect choice.
July 12th, 2008 at 10:42 am
I don’t even know why you guys brought up Valerenga. This atricle is about Rosenborg has placed a bid on Kenny Cooper, if you have a problem its nor our fould. Al you Valerenga supporters are just jealus because Rosenborg has been (and will be) the best team Norway ever have had and something Valerenga never will be!
July 12th, 2008 at 10:46 am
OMG William.. Valerenga is the most hated club in Norway, have the uggliest supporters who looks like narcotics..
July 12th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
Agree with Andreas on that one
July 12th, 2008 at 1:30 pm
Rosenborg is not a big club. It once were, now it is a bad club.
Rosenborg is famous because they think that they are the best club in Scandinavia, but that is not correct. Rosenborg has some of the worst fans in Scandinavia. Always bragging about there wins in Europe, but they have always been lucky in the European competitions.
If he had to move to Scandinavia there is much better clubs in Denmark and Sweden (even Norway).
July 12th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Hi there, Max. Wow, look at all these crazy Norwegians in here. Anyway, I’m kinda puzzled by your sentiment “..we don’t need the Norwegian league to get to big leagues.” First of all, one should say that the Norwegian league is a very good springboard league to the rest of the continent. If you do well there, you’ll get picked up by a larger club for sure (Rosenborg has traditions that any club in Europe may envy, and you can go to the darkest parts of Africa, and people still know the name Rosenborg from their European campaigns). Then you mention a few American players in big European leagues. Fair enough, but which one of those players have really set their respective leagues on fire? I have to admit, I’ve only heard of half of those players you mentioned. Wasn’t ADU supposed to be the best of the American best? What happened to him? My point is, the sentiment “..we don’t need the Norwegian league to get to big leagues” is a truth with modifications and a tad over-the-top. Let me put it this way: What would be the best thing?: Cooper getting regular first-team action at Rosenborg and getting used to the European way of playing, or Cooper warming the bench in some backwater bottom-feeder English Premiership club like West Bromwich or Hull, where the only action he is likely to get is with the reserve squad? You decide…
July 12th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
Sorry for not using paragraphs, Max. I wasn’t sure if the enter button was the same as “submit”.
Hope your eyes stop bleeding soon
July 12th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
I noticed this guy Jay over here:
“Rosenborg is not a big club.”
Really?! They could’ve fooled me!
“Always bragging about there wins in Europe”
Well don’t you think they’re entitled to? Eleven (almost) consecutive seasons in the Champions League earns you bragging rights in any European nation, ESPECIALLY in a small country like Norway.
“they have always been lucky in the European competitions.”
You, sir, are an idiot. Are these “lucky results”?: 3-0 away against Borussia Dortmund? 2-0 away against Valencia? 5-1 over Olympiakos? 2-0 over Real Madrid?
With all due respect, I think some people here are talking out of their ass.
July 12th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
@Dinsdale
They are not at big club – unless being nr. 5 in the norwegian league is big. They WERE a big club in Scandinavia now they are nothing. A small club selling there profiles to russian or other bad clubs in eastern europe.
No. They were lucky to get to the Champions League once and then they just had no AND absolutely no competition in the norwegian league. It must have been the easiest league at that time. With that many Champions League they can’t avoid winning once in a while.
Try to see last season where they got in to the Champions League. There had never AND NEVER been an more easy way to the Champions League. I have never seen anything like that. They are the most lucky team in Europe.
And always people have to hear about them. There fans are almost spooky in that way.
July 12th, 2008 at 3:06 pm
hey Jay. don talk trash about Rosenborg fans. Rosenborg is the only club in Norway who fills up the stadiums at almost every match. We have the best fans!
July 12th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
@Jay
It seems we have different definitions of “big”. I wasn’t talking about “big” in just a sporting sense, I was talking also financially, in terms of traditions and the sheer number of trophies accumulated the last 20 years. If we compare bank accounts and accumulated wealth for the last 20 years, Rosenborg leaves the rest of the Scandinavian clubs in the dust, including FCK. I still consider IFK Gothenburg a big club in Scand. because of their traditions and their efforts in Europe during the eighties.
And selling their players to Eastern Europe is hardly disregarding Rosenborg. Do you know how much money flows around in Eastern European football nowadays? Zenit St. Petersburg can match the salaries of any major European club (they have Gazprom-money, you know), and that’s why A.Arshavin hasn’t left yet. Cluj in Romania (I assume that’s the club you were referring to vis-a-vis Eastern Europe with Kone and all) has a lot of money between their hands and their ambitions are thereafter. How this makes Rosenborg look bad, I don’t know. It’s not their fault that Eastern European football is going through a major economical boom right now.
Rosenborg facing easy competition in Norway is hardly their fault. If anything, it’s the other teams’ fault, wouldn’t you say? they are the ones who have to step up their game. Are you saying RBK should have played worse just to make the Norw. league more exciting? That’s insane !
Blame the other teams, if anything.
And there’s a difference being lucky in the types of teams you met, and the actual efforts of Rosenborg. You made it seem like you thought Rosenborg was lucky in beating all those teams. Yes, they were indeed lucky to draw Tampere last season, but what does that have to do with Rosenborg’s performance in CL? It’s not their fault they faced weaker opposition. I’m sure the RBK players cried their eyes out for facing Tampere instead of Liverpool e.l. in the final qualif. stage for the CL, but I don’t understand why anybody would hold that against Rosenborg ?!! It’s not their fault. They didn’t rig the draw, you know. they just had to meet whoever UEFA drew against them.
As for the fans, they are the nicest people you could imagine. They are very pleasant, and my God there are many hot chicks among them!
If you wanna talk about fans, talk about VIF-fans and their problems with casuals. Atleast the RBK-fans have never been troublemakers. That being said, I’m not knocking VIF-fans. they’re mostly very pleasant too
July 12th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Rosenborg have truble competing with other clubs in Scandinavia. You say “FCK” By that I assume you meen FC Copenhagen. I follow the danish, the swedish and norwegian league and I saw last winther that FC Copenhagen got a well known danish defender Ulrik Laursen in front of Rosenborg. They had wanted him for month and in the end they couldn’t compete with FC Copenhagen. And that is not the first and last time that would happen. I know that FC Copenhagen do not earn all the money in football, but that do not count when they can give about 3 million $ for a defender like Ulrik Laursen. Rosenborg can’t give that amount of money.
I don’t blame Rosenborg for being in an easy league, but I am tired of them saying that it was something extraordinary or something special. It wasn’t.
Rosenborg fans is not new for me. Not only on the internet where they always are bragging about there former results and how good they are and how they are Skandinaviens king. They are really annoying.
The first reply on this discussion says it all. The best in Scandinavia and so on.
July 12th, 2008 at 6:29 pm
Of course RBK can spend that kind of money on a player like Laursen. Their CL campaigns have given RBK literally tens of millions of dollars to go around. How they choose to spend their money is their business. Perhaps RBK didn’t wanna spend that much money on a 32-year-old player. Laursen isn’t exactly a hot, young prospect. 3 million dollars is roughly 15 million NOK. That’s beaucoup money in Norway…and in Denmark.
Besides, perhaps Laursen wanted to go home to Denmark to finish his career (there’s no place like home) or maybe his family wanted it that way. Who knows? RBK got Kris Stadsgaard from Reggina instead (another Dane, and relatively young), and from what I’ve seen of him, RBK got themselves a solid central defender. Too bad he’s injured.
As far as I’m concerned, RBK-fans have all the rights to brag about their teams’ efforts. With that kind of European rapsheet, I’m willing to let sh#t slide
They’ve earned the right to be a little obnoxious and pompous. In any case, I don’t mind it. Just look at how apesh#t Brann-fans went after last season. Imagine if they had RBK’s European merits. Jesus Lord…the horror. It would be ten times worse. They would NEVER shut up
July 13th, 2008 at 7:53 am
And you say it all. Rosenborg didn’t wanted to spend 15 million NOK on a 32 year old player. They wanted him and he was ready to move, but they didn’t wanted to use that amount of money. Here is the tricky part. FC Copenhagen bought him not to sell, but to use in a couple of seasons. Rosenborg only want to pay that many money if they can sell him. That the main difference between the two clubs.
And I know Kris Stadsgaard. He is a overrated defender who where lucky that some agens saw the light in him, but he had never the level to play in the Italian league. No way. Now he is in Rosenborg and is injuried. That will not be the first time..
Why do they have the rights? That is the mentality for Rosenborg fans (and the norwegian people) Always thinking that they are the best in the world and allways bragging about the things they have done in football. They have a huge inferiority complex and are in need of telling the world about them and the not that good results at all.
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Well, Jay, I think they have the right to be a little placated because of such an illustrious list of merits. And personally, I don’t see the big deal. I hardly think they think they’re the best in the world, but if your favorite Norw. team had almost eleven consecutive season in CL, wouldn’t you boast with pride as well? I know I would!
Seems to me that everybody else in Norway is of the opinion that RBK isn’t allowed to gloat a little bit. Is this Janteloven we see? Nobody is allowed to be that good? I suspect there are a lot of jealous football-fans in Norway cursing RBK for whatever timid reason, just because they haven’t enjoyed the success RBK has.
As for Laursen, I don’t think re-sell value is the first thing RBK thinks of when they’re shopping for new players, least of all for a 32-year-old. I’m quite sure RBK doesn’t view themselves as a sort of farmer-club for the rest of the world. The way I see it, the “main difference” between the clubs, in this case, is that RBK is a little more prudent with money. The Laursen-deal had nothing to do with re-sell value. You don’t buy a 32-year-old to re-sell later.
And K.Stadsgaard is overrated? Overrated compared to who? I had certainly never heard of him before he came to RBK. FYI, he played a few matches last spring, and he was good. He could outrun and outmuscle pretty much anyone he met.
This has nothing to do with an inferiority complex, it’s about raw facts and merits. A Norwegian team spent over a decade in the CL, getting good results to boot. Not many teams in Europe managed that, not even in the major leagues. I don’t understand your hostility towards this sentiment.
As far as I’m concerned, RBK can tell the world that they’re awesome as much as they want, and they would be entitled to. There is not one football-savvy person in the world who would argue against that, seeing their merits, and coming from a tiny nation.
PS: There’s a difference when you say RBK-fans and Norw. fans in general always thinking they’re the best. The difference is RBK has earned the right to brag, but the national team sucks. You comparing the two is not fair. What RBK-fans have to be proud of has nothing to do with the attitude of Norwegian fans in general, for example vis-a-vis the national team.
Why would RBK have an inferiority complex when they’ve played in CL 11-12 times and beaten great ones? They don’t need it. They KNOW what they’ve accomplished. They have something to show for. So I don’t understand your “inf. complex”-theory. It doesn’t apply here.
I don’t understand why you mind the pride and a little gloating from the RBK-fans. To me, you’re starting to sound like a bitter fan of a rival team.
As a neutral football-fan, I am forever grateful of RBK’s accomplishments in Europe, and I wear that badge proudly. I owe the club alot and I am very proud that Norway has such an illustrious club. I know it’s politically correct in socio-democratic Norway to NOT be proud of anything or any accomplishment, but I don’t care.
July 13th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
just wanted to say that I totally agree with Mr. Dinsdale. The reason why other, especially norwegian clubs and fans dislike RBK so much is because their sick and tired of RBK winning the norwegian league and achieving great results in CL. Janteloven ftw!
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July 23rd, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Joachim, Buddle is a fast strong goal scorer and has finally found his form with LA. He’s scored 11 goals in only 14 matches and has potential to play in Europe. he’s not good in the air but will make it up with work rate.
July 24th, 2008 at 5:42 pm
Kenny Cooper seems like a promising player – however, I am actually not 100% sure if he is the player type we need on top together with Iversen (and I surely want to keep him in the start squad, his impact on the team was shown in yesterday’s win). I would have thought that a player type like John Pelu or the notorious Brattbakk would have supplemented Iversen in a better way in Hamrens 4-4-2 formation. On the other side, based on the readings I’ve found and the YouTube clips, Cooper seems like a great finisher (exactly what we lack)! What player types has he been playing together with on the top in FC Dallas?
For the topic about the Norwegian league (and Rosenborg) vs the greatest leagues in Europe; no doubt about that the Scandinavian leagues hold a lower quality than the greater ones, but as said previously – it is a perfect springboard into the greater ones (if that is the major goal). The the general (domestic) interest for the Norwegian league is quite huge at the moment. I’d say it is a excellent choice! Decent amount of money and alot of foreign scouts on the stadiums regularly. And Rosenborg BK is a team that invests for the future season (have completed the needed generation change, a new coach, still a strong and healthy cash flow etc). Certainly not as supreme as in the 90′s and early 2000′s, but still one of a handfull of true “top clubs” in Norway. Among top 5 at the moment (7 points behind), which usually means medals or gold at the end
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July 27th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
FC Copenhagen bigger than Rosenborg? Give me a break! Personally, i`m a Vålerenga fan, but i`m not denying the fact that Rosenborg is a bigger team, in terms of both finances, facilities and traditions.
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July 27th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
blablabla, rosenborg isnt that big club, but the team have good spirit, and they have beaten many good teams, maybe with some luck;) however, the team got potenical. I think if cooper do it well in rosenborg, he will be sold to a bigger legue in 2-3 year.
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